Sustainable Business Growth Without Burnout w/Caitlin Durning, Teresa Romain and Meredith Dewald

What if the goal isn’t more… but enough?

So many business owners are exhausted - not because they’re failing but because they’re chasing growth that doesn’t actually feel good or sustainable.

In this episode, I’m joined by three 2025 Powerful Women Rising Impact Award winners who approach business growth from very different angles, but land in the same place: calmer momentum beats constant pressure.

Caitlin Durning, Coach of the Year, Teresa Romain, winner of the Active Impact Award, and Meredith Dewald, VA of the Year, share how mindset, systems, and values-first strategy work together to create steady growth you can actually sustain.

We discuss:

• Redefining abundance as "enough" instead of always pushing for more
• Using simple brain-dump systems to calm idea overload
• Letting your niche emerge through consistent action
• The secret to success:  Intuition-led coaching, practical strategy and a VA who acts more as a strategic partner than a task-doer

Links & References:

• Learn more about all the 2025 Powerful Women Rising Impact Award winners 
• Connect with other female entrepreneurs inside the PWR Connection Network
• Listen to Caitlin's podcast: The End in Mind - Personal Development for Entrepreneurs
• Check out Caitlins website and connect with her on Instagram 
• Connect with Teresa on her website, YouTube channel or Facebook
• Follow Meredith on Instagram, watch me tag her a million times on Threads or check out her website

Transcript

Meet The Award Winners

SPEAKER_03 0:02

Hello, ladies. Welcome to the Powerful Women Rising podcast.

SPEAKER_02 0:05

Hello.

SPEAKER_03 0:07

Good to see you here. Yes, so excited to have you. Teresa, this is your second time on the podcast, I think. I had you on years ago. Yes. I remember. You were with Amy and Lindsay Lee, and we were talking about the powerful women rising community. Yes, right. It was it was so memorable she doesn't even know she did it. In your defense of it a long time ago. So much has happened since then. I know. We we each have been like four different people since then. Um okay, so let's jump into today. I'm really excited. You guys don't know each other. Presumably the listeners don't know you either. So I want to give you a moment to introduce yourselves, tell everybody a little bit about you, and then we'll jump into some some juicy stuff. So, Caitlin, let's hear from you first. You are the winner of the Coach of the Year Award. So tell everybody a little bit about you.

SPEAKER_00 0:55

Thank you so much. I'm so excited to be here. So my name's Caitlin. I own Meraki Media Management, which is a marketing agency. We specialize in social media management, specifically in the organic realm of content creation. And I also coach women, business coach, um, consult in marketing, how to expand communities. And I've been doing that really since I started because I actually launched courses before I became a social media manager. That was back before 2020 when nobody wanted to hire out social media yet. So that's kind of a little bit of my story arc, too.

Redefining Abundance Beyond “More”

SPEAKER_03 1:35

That's awesome. I want to share something from one of the nominations because when we did these awards, we had people nominate people and then we took the top people from each category and people voted on theirs. And one of the nominations that was submitted for you said she has a rare gift of making you feel deeply seen, supported, and safe from the moment you sit down with her. And I love that so much, especially considering like when I read that, I was like, oh, she must be a life coach or you know, something like that. And the fact that you are doing like business and social media and marketing and you're still finding a way to make people feel like that, I think is incredible. Thank you. Thank you so much. So awesome. Yeah. So, Meredith, let's go to you next. Tell everybody about yourself.

SPEAKER_01 2:18

Hi. Uh, well, I'm a virtual assistant and I work with business owners, getting their systems going and figuring out, hey, I've got this idea. How do we do it? How do we implement fixing the back and working with clients, their clients, um, building out sites, moving platforms a lot lately. Uh yeah, I I just I love being behind the scenes.

SPEAKER_03 2:40

So yeah, I had to convince, I had to pay her actually to do this podcast interview. Okay, so I didn't cheat, I swear, but Meredith is my VA. And I'm only saying that because I need to add to what she just said. She is not a VA. She is so many other things. She, I told her a long time ago, I'm like, why don't you just become a business coach? And she's like, because then I'd have to be on camera. I was like, okay, fair. But Meredith is like, she will get this stuff done, but she also is the kind of assistant that will say, like, I don't know if this is the best idea, or I think that's a good idea, but it would really work a lot better if we did it this way. And if I'm like, no, we're still doing it that way, she's like, okay, whatever you want. But uh, she's like a strategic partner almost. Like we think about things together, we figure stuff out together. There's a lot of times that I'm like, I just told her the other day, I'm like, I know this is supposed to be the other way around, me telling you what to do, but um, I have ADHD and I have 5,000 things in my brain. And can you just tell me the three things that need to be done this week? And she's like, yes, I will. So she is like, I she's just so much more than a VA. She's like essential support for your business. And I love her so much. Speaking of people I love so much, let's go to Teresa.

SPEAKER_02 4:00

So I am Teresa Romain, and I have been what has been called, my clients gave me the name, an abundance coach for more than 30 years. Caveat. I'm also also the poster child for you. Teach best what you most need to learn and keep practicing yourself. Um, so that's me. And what it took me almost 25 years to learn, where I would do my own abundance mindset stuff and I'd get out of debt, and I'd help my clients get out of debt and help them make more money and all of this. And yet I noticed that the pressure and the frustration and the sense of not enough, and I always have to do more, and it has to be bigger, like it never went away. And that what I finally discovered over the past three years, Melissa, you've been part of my journey, is because the model we have for abundance in our world that dominates our world is really built on and in reaction to scarcity. And it keeps us in this trap. I call it the abundance trap, where we think more, doing more, being more efficient, achieving more, making more, all of that is gonna give us this experience of wholeness and life and well-being and freedom we long for. And we just keep chasing it and we stop, we don't know how to live in it. And so my work is really about liberating people from that trap and giving them a new model for their relationship with money for uh abundance so that they can start living in it now and let all that pressure of gotta do more, gotta do more, like let that go.

SPEAKER_03 5:40

Yeah, I love that. And I love that you explained it that way because there are so many different definitions of abundance out there, as you know, and you and I have talked about many times. I was just yesterday helping a friend who runs a networking group sift through um speaker applications. And there were so many people who submitted applications for things like, you know, increase your abundance, um, turn your fear into abundance, more abundance this year. And all of the ones that I read, it was all like abundance means more, right? Uh let me show you how to make more money, let me show you how to call more money in. Let me show you how to get more of what you want. And I kept thinking about you because I'm like, Teresa has changed the word abundance for me forever.

SPEAKER_02 6:25

Yep. And how often abundance is like money.

Impact Without Performing

SPEAKER_03 6:30

Yeah. Like and more and more and more of it. And more and more of it. Yeah. Yeah. So, Teresa, I'm going to stay with you for a second because I love the fact that your award was the Active Impact Award. And basically what that was was an award that went to someone who was engaged and active, who shows up in conversations, events, online spaces with energy and enthusiasm and dedication and inspires other people. And what we were looking for really was not just somebody who is in all of the places, but what was the impact that she was making in the spaces that she was in? And I especially love that you won this award because you've had quite a journey when it comes to networking and showing up in spaces. And I would love for you to just talk a little bit about that experience and what that has been like for you and kind of how you interpret this award.

SPEAKER_02 7:28

Oh, we could go on. I'll keep it concise. Um, when I first came into Melissa's world, it was because I knew networking was like my weak spot. It's it was my growth area. Um, and it brought up all my fears, but it also brought up all my scarcity because I had this belief I wasn't making a lot of money at the time. It was going through a hard time financially. And so the only way I thought I could like support others is if I bought their products or I went to their events and there was like money. And so I was living in this, I can't support others. And if I can't support others, then I'm not gonna show up because then they know I can't support them, and then they're gonna think I'm not an abundance coach, right? And so, you know, that was what your community and others helped me see that that's not the only way to show up and support. And um so I started to see like, wow, I could just show up and my energy supports, or I could show up and just share my experience and it supports. Like, oh, I don't have to do anything and I don't have to be a certain way, and I can make a big difference if I'm just like have that commitment to show up and serve, which I'm a generator in human design, so that works for me. So that's what I've been doing. No big deal. I'm not on social media a lot, I'm not out there like growing this massive network, and then I get this award. And and my first thought was one, I laughed and I went, well, so much for my idea of not enough, because clearly somehow I'm doing something. And the other thing I celebrated is that I was honored that I got the award, and I didn't care that I got the award. And what I mean by that is in the past, I would have used the fact that I got award as proof and evidence and look at how good I am and what the impact I'm having it would have been like to prove I was enough. And it was just really a great gift for me to realize how much I'd grown and healed, that I could be honored by it, I could be a little surprised by it, but I didn't have any of that like looky, look at what it means about me. Um, and that's I think that's the gift this award has been for me. Like, first of all, like I don't know how I'm having impact, and I don't have to. And I don't need to prove my worth like I used to either. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:53

And that totally tracks with what everyone who nominated you said. The word authenticity came up over and over again, right? That she is showing up, like when she shows up, she is deeply present, she's listening, she's asking good questions, she is uh being honest about who she is. She is showing that abundance isn't just something that she teaches, but it's how she lives. And I think that really is the impact that you've had on people is showing them that there is a way to network that allows you to stay in integrity and be authentic and not feel like you have to be more and be perfect and do all the things for all of the people. And I think that's awesome. Let's go back to Caitlin because I want to stay on this kind of same track. I think it's I I went back and forth with the whole Coach of the Year award. I almost didn't even include it when I first started these awards because I have such an interesting relationship with coaching for someone who has been a coach for a while. Um, but one of the things I really wanted to make sure of is that the people we were recognizing as coach of the year were people who really understood the true essence of coaching. People that were operating with integrity, who were committed to helping their clients, um, and who weren't just the Instagram coaches, right? The like, look at me on my private jet and I made$5 billion just laying by the pool because I got all of you suckers to believe that I knew what I was doing. So talk to me a little bit about your experience as a coach and how that all resonates for you.

Coaching With Integrity

SPEAKER_00 11:38

Yeah, thank you so much for sharing the taboo of coaching because it took me a while to even take on that type of title. And even internally, like I will share it small on the smaller scale. So this award definitely made me think differently about this year for myself. I like to approach coaching in a very intuitive way in the client's lens. So I like to just ask questions. I think of my coaching more as a facilitator of conversation to help the client understand what feels most aligned for them. For example, I've had clients that have come to me, think that they want to start a digital marketing agency. We have a few meetings and we walk through what it's going to look like. After meeting three, they're like, you know what? I don't want to be doing this at all. I think I just want a career. And then I'm able to help them on that. Okay, what does this next career look like? Is it a pivot? Um, and that's been really helpful for me as well, seeing that we don't need to follow someone else's intuition, someone else's path in order to get to where we want to go. We have all the answers within. Um, and that's just been a core belief of mine for the past few years now. And that's how I like to apply coaching. I also feel more empowered for the client. Instead of them coming and asking me questions, I wouldn't want to send them in a direction that doesn't resonate with them. I will still give tactical strategy. I'll make that clear for like marketing. Um, but I don't tell them exactly what to do. I always ask, does this feel like that would work for you? Or is this something that you'd like to do? Because if it's not something we would like to do, we probably won't do it. And then the business never grows.

SPEAKER_03 13:30

So yeah, that that uh that resonates. And it also sounds very much like Meredith's approach to helping other business owners. I think I'm gonna go to you next, Meredith, because I think it's when we think about virtual assistants, we think of people who are like behind the scenes helping other business owners. And yes, that's what you're doing, but you're also like, I don't know, I can only speak from my own experience. It's almost like half this business is yours, right? Like we're building this business together. It's not like I'm building this business and Meredith's back here like doing the things. It's like we're both uh probably to an extreme. I'm always like, hey, we got another client. She's like, okay, it's 11 o'clock at night, go to sleep. Um, but let's talk a little bit about kind of your philosophy and how you see your role as a virtual assistant.

SPEAKER_01 14:25

Yeah, it well, of course, it's a smaller part of the business than if I was like in an office space, which I spent years doing that. I was a business manager at a university. But if you are going for more than just the like, hey, will you go schedule these emails or will you go, you know, fix this thing on the website real quick and actually want a strategy partner, then yeah, it's gonna be more of a help me with my business type of relationship. And I am very invested in what my clients are doing and their businesses and they're doing. I don't want to work with somebody that I feel icky about, you know. Yeah, and so most of my clients happen to be entrepreneurs who have some form of ADHD, whether it's official or just kind of yeah, I think so. So there is a lot of like ideas stuff, and then I'm the one that comes in and comes to open up with how we're actually going to structure the thing that make it makes it work.

SPEAKER_03 15:25

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah, you did. What do you think it is that I mean you touched on it a little bit, but you've been a VA for how long now?

SPEAKER_01 15:35

I've been a V, I started doing VA work back in 2020 when the pandemic was just starting, and I was like, okay, I don't want to go back to an office. I was moving. Um, and a friend of mine was like, hey, I think you'd be an awesome VA. Have you looked at this? I don't I don't even know what that is. So looked into it. Um, got a few clients started with skills that I had already, but weren't necessarily like big VA skills and just built as I went along. And so you don't have to start knowing Kajavi and Kit, which used to be convert kit and mail. You just start with the skills you have, get curious, and you build them from there.

SPEAKER_03 16:15

Yeah. I feel like that's how all of us started our businesses, right? Yeah. I know for you, Teresa, it was a lot of like, well, talk about how you started your business or how did you like even get into this? Because I know it came from a lot of personal experience.

The VA As Strategic Partner

SPEAKER_02 16:30

Just a quagmire of my own scarcity. I mean, um, I left the corporate world uh and my six-figure job because I didn't love it. And I was going to start a network marketing business with my husband, and we were gonna do it full time, and we were gonna be making money in it, and we spent money to make money and went to all the trainings. And like I always say, a year and a half after going at it full time, um, as newlyweds too. So maybe it wasn't full time. Um, the only thing that was growing exponentially was not our income, it was our debt. And it was that that quagmire of that the debt, but also the fact that on paper, Dan and I should have been wildly successful at that business. I mean, we had all the skills, we had all of this, um, and we weren't. Well, then that was frustrating. And then, of course, I didn't want anybody to know it because everybody expected us to succeed. So then I go into patterns of hiding and acting like we're successful, spend more money, have more debt. And finally, I just got to a point there has to be something that I'm missing that this isn't working. And when the student is ready, teachers appear. And I first learned a system for getting out of debt, kind of like Dave Ramsey does now. This was before Dave Ramsey, and other principals, and I just literally, my scarcity has just continued to be my teacher and like, oh, ooh, oh, gotta work on the internals, oh, gotta do this, gotta do this. And I did all of those things. I made more money, I spent less money, I did mindset, I did all of that. But like I said at the beginning, and yet it was I never had that sense of I can just be and relax and enjoy my life. There's always have to do more. And that's when I started to see it's the model we have, it's gonna keep us in scarcity, always chasing chasing. And so that's when my work, again, my scarcity led me. Um, and that's why I say now to all my clients, scarcity is not a problem to fix. Yeah, it's an invitation and catalyst for healing and growth. And that's how I work with people because the abundance we want and that we need to grow and thrive is already available for us. We may not see it, we may not know how to access it, we may not know how to utilize it in ways that support us to grow and thrive, but it's there. And so when you can you can pull away that scittercity, then it's like you're open to it.

SPEAKER_03 18:52

Yeah, that's really good. I actually love that the three of you ended up on an interview together. I didn't really even do that on purpose, but I love that Teresa is so focused on like the mindset and the perspective and the shifts that make such a big difference. And Meredith is so focused on like the action and the doing of the things. And then Caitlin is like a little bit of both. And I feel like it's all what we need as business owners. Like I came from the coaching world where everything was your thoughts, right? So if you're not making money, it's because of your thoughts. If you signed up for my$10,000 program and it didn't work for you, it's because of your thoughts. If you are, you know, whatever it is, you need to do more thought work. You need to think differently about it. There was no like strategy. There was no like, let's talk about how you're marketing, let's not let's talk about your offer. It was just like, you probably need to think better. And then I went to the whole other extreme of like, who cares what I think? I just need to do the things. And now I've landed somewhere back. Here in the middle with all three of you of like, okay, yes, how I'm thinking about this is important, and also doing the things is important. Does that resonate with you guys?

SPEAKER_02 20:12

Yeah, and I just have to and I just have to add because you know I do this, it's like, and the bottom line message you keep getting when either is working, when it's the strategies aren't working or your thinking's wrong or whatever, is the message that keeps getting reinforced is something's wrong with me and I'm not enough. And if I was to say anything else about my work, it's like, no, nothing's wrong with you. It's not that you're not enough. The model you have isn't gonna isn't gonna give you what you want.

SPEAKER_03 20:41

Yeah. Were you gonna add something, Meredith?

SPEAKER_01 20:44

Yeah, a couple of years ago, I started. Well, I have a Slack space I set up for each of my clients so we can communicate and draw ideas and this is working that's fine. Um, but I started a brain dump channel because there needed to be a space where you could come in with an idea and it not be an assignment, it might be a new project necessarily, which like I have this idea, I don't know what to do with it. How do we implement it? And then I can come in and go, okay, well, we could do XYZ with our current system, or you know, just the other plan for it. We might need to bring in another platform or a weird factor integration or something like that. But you know, just talking back and forth and then deciding, okay, well, let's implement it in a month, four months, whatever. Or yeah, that's no, no, not gonna do it. Let's let's just table it. Yeah, but somewhere to talk about the actual implementation without it being a stressor or this thing that's just like bouncing around in your head while you've got the other clients to deal with and to to serve it.

Scarcity As Teacher, Not Enemy

SPEAKER_00 21:48

Yeah, such a good point. I was just gonna share as well what you both are talking about and what the theme of today has been. It's almost like when I first got into business, I had created a jail cell for myself. It almost mimicked the exact job that I left, if not working triple the amount of time that I was working before for somebody else. And I realized how much I was constricting, you know, the growth through a lot of the core beliefs that so many other people were talking about at that time. You know, it's your thoughts, it's you, you're the problem. And when I was able to strip that away, that's what I felt like was expansive. Like then I could feel my intuition. I'm like, this is fun, you know, this can be fun. It should be fun. Marketing should be fun. Um, so I feel the same way. And I think that if we can hold space for others, you know, that are experiencing that, what a gift. You know, that doesn't even feel like work anymore. That just feels like more fun.

SPEAKER_03 22:50

Yeah. Yeah. That's all great advice on all three of your parts. I the last question I want to ask you before we wrap up, and I'm gonna ask each of you this is for anyone who is listening to this podcast who maybe is new in business or they're struggling, something's not working, they're not getting consistent traction, they're feeling overwhelmed or frustrated or whatever it is, they don't know how to get to the next level. What's a piece of advice that you would give them or what's something that you wish that you would have known? Any of you can go first.

SPEAKER_02 23:29

Well, I could give a few, but here would be mine. Um it's okay to pair down while you're growing something. So what I mean by that is you know, instead of like thinking you gotta act like you're successful and thinking you're more than what you are, it's okay in service of your business, your growth, your well-being, to say, hey, let's let's maybe pare down our lifestyle, take the pressure off my business financially, and and and get clear on what your nut is. That's what I call it, your nut. Like this is the minimal amount. If my business could make this much a month, we're good. We're good. And see if you can have that nut be as small as it can, because then you can feel like, okay, I can do this, and you're not in that financial pressure, scarcity, proving all of that. And then the second piece of it is once you've done it, let's say your net is$500 or a thousand, I don't care.$1,000, and you did it, yay, I made a thousand dollars. Do not raise the goal. One of the biggest mistakes I've made and I see people make is as soon as we achieve a goal, we want to raise it. And I know firsthand that what you have to learn to achieve a goal is very different than what you need to learn to continue to sustain it. So if your nut is a thousand dollars, then have a goal of a thousand dollars or more. And when you make it, celebrate it, and then have that same goal for the next month and the next month and the next month, and do that for four, five, six months. Let that be very solid. And then if you want to or need to go for more, then set a new goal. But this, like upward and onward, don't do that. Let it gel like a jello salad, let it gel, and then add a layer if you want.

SPEAKER_03 25:31

That is really great advice. And I'm so glad you said that because it goes against so much of the like business experts' advice out there that is like more and more and more and more. You did that, yay, let's double it next month, let's triple it next month. And talk about perpetuating an expense of not enough, right? No kidding, no kidding, and nothing is less motivating than a feeling of not enough for sure. Caitlin, do you want to go next?

SPEAKER_00 26:03

Yeah, I would say, you know, I did not understand that entrepreneurship when I was 22 years old getting into this journey would cause me to look at all of the parts of myself that maybe weren't working so well. Um, and I don't know that I would have done it to be very transparent if I did know the depths of my soul that would come out throughout this journey. So to anybody just starting, look at this as a gift to your family, your friends, the people around you. This experience has changed my life for the better. It's allowed my relationships to deepen. Um, even my relationship with my puppy. You know, I look at everything differently now. So I would say give yourself this gift and keep going because even if you have that slow month, as Teresa mentioned, it has nothing to do with you. Maybe the slow month is happening. So you can do the personal work. My business tends to mimic exactly what's coming up in my life. And now I try not to question it. I just lean into it.

SPEAKER_03 27:13

Yeah. Do you think you could ever go back to working a nine to five for someone else?

Bridging Mindset And Execution

SPEAKER_00 27:18

That's a great question. You know, of course, like many entrepreneurs, I've applied because scarcity just like to be very transparent. I think if it's the right person and they respect boundaries and we have a mutual relationship, beneficial relationship, yes, but that is sometimes challenging to find in modern day workforce. So I would prefer to keep working for myself because it's really is such a gift.

SPEAKER_03 27:46

Yeah. Yeah. It's hard to go back. I started working part-time at Starbucks about six months ago, um, mostly so I could get health insurance benefits. And I was like, it'll be fine. Like there was so much that I didn't think about. And my first week there, I remember telling my boss, I'm like, I cannot tell you how long it's been since I actually had to be somewhere on time.

SPEAKER_00 28:12

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 28:12

Like even when you make plans with your friend, right? It's like, let's meet for lunch at 11. But if I'm there at 11:03, no one cares. If I'm clocking in at 11.03, Starbucks cares. And that was a lot to get used to. Like you're not wearing the right pants. Are your shoes waterproof? Uh, don't forget to say hello to every customer who comes through the door. Why weren't you clocked in a minute ago? Like it's, I actually love my job, so it's not as terrible as I'm making it sound, but there was just so much that I was like, and dealing with other people and the dynamics. And last week we had a mandatory store meeting that was three hours long with like role plays and games and like all of the corporate things that you're like, I forgot about this three-hour meeting that could have been a really short email. So hard to go back, yes, not impossible. Meredith, what about you? What advice would you give to other business owners?

SPEAKER_01 29:13

Give yourself space to experiment and play. Like the especially I see this a lot with younger VAs, is they think they have to niche really fast and like pick their specialty. It's like, no, your business is gonna change. What you specialize in is going to evolve and change. And there's just so much space out there. There's so many different types of clients. I worked, I've worked with a lot of coaches, but then I've also worked, I've worked with photographers and real estate people, like all kinds of stuff. So there's space to grow and you don't have to lock in immediately.

SPEAKER_03 29:50

Yeah, that's really good too. Cause we obsess about that, especially in the beginning, because that's what we're told to do, right? And I think every business owner I know has gone through so many iterations of like, this is who I am and this is who I help. And a lot of times where we end up is not at all where we were planning to end up. And I see for so many people, like, I don't care what you think your niche is, your niche is gonna find you, you know. Like by the time I was my first business was a dating and relationship coaching business. And I initially thought I was going to be working with, I started out wanting to work with women who were attracting the same kind of man over and over again. By the end of my business, I was working almost exclusively with women who were like late 40s to late 60s, who had been married for a long time, who had been divorced for a long time, now wanted to get back out there and date, but it was a very different world than it was when they were 22 and met their husbands. And that's like every, and I don't even know how that happened, right? That's just it's like Meredith and the ADHDers, like we just find her and then we keep finding her, and then we keep sending our people to her. And so, yeah, sometimes like you don't have to be quite so uptight about your niche because it's gonna find you and you're gonna figure it out the more you put yourself out there and just keep moving forward. Absolutely. Okay, so if people want to know more about what you guys do, I mean, if you were to ask me my business advice, I would just say hire probably all three of these people. Um, so if you would like to take my advice, or if you'd just like to know them a little bit better, be in their circle, see what's going on with them. Teresa, what's the best way for people to connect with you?

Grounded Advice For New Owners

SPEAKER_02 31:36

A best way would be to go to my website, teresa romaine.com. You can there's a contact form if you wanted to connect. There's resources there. Facebook is my second and you know, or YouTube channel. YouTube channel and Facebook are my only social media, and still probably my website is the best place.

SPEAKER_03 31:55

Yeah, I agree. Your website is amazing.

SPEAKER_02 31:58

It's so the new one, the new one's gonna be released next week.

SPEAKER_03 32:01

I can't wait for that. I have always loved your website because it's so interactive and it's so you. Like, I know it's a good website when I know the person and then I see the website, and I'm like, oh yeah, this is like it's hard sometimes to translate a whole person into a website, and you do a great job.

SPEAKER_02 32:19

So I'm excited to well, I think the new one will then surprise you because in creating it, I realized how much my old ones were still like what I need to be, what I should be. And this one is 100% me. So it's very different.

SPEAKER_03 32:32

I can't wait. So the new website will be out by the time this podcast launches, so everyone has to go and check it out. Caitlin, how can people connect with you?

SPEAKER_00 32:40

Yay, I'm excited to see Teresa at your new website. I will definitely be following up. Um, my website is Meraki M-E-R-A-K-I Media Management, and that's also with underscores on Instagram. That's a great place to come see me, slide in the DMs. I'm always just happy to chat. Um, and yeah, would love to connect with everybody.

SPEAKER_03 33:02

Awesome. Yeah, our guests get really excited when people find them on Instagram and then send them a message and say, I heard you on this podcast. So if you're listening, definitely go send these ladies a message and tell them that you heard them on this podcast. It's always, I don't know, it's even after doing this podcast for years, I still feel like I'm just chatting away and I don't know if anyone's actually listening other than my mom and like one random person in Africa. And then people are like, Oh, I love that podcast episode. I'm like, oh, you're listening? That's so fun. Meredith, how can people connect with you?

SPEAKER_01 33:34

Well, they can go to my website, it's cglassvirtual.com. Um, also, Melissa's, you've been tagging me like crazy over on threads and Instagram lately. So you can find me there. That I think you've actually been using Coffee Shop Chic, which is my personal handle. I respond to that or CGlass Virtual. So yeah, whatever you want to do to find me that way as well. It's great.

SPEAKER_03 33:56

I have somehow cultivated my threads home screen to be like, it's all either I'm an entrepreneur and I'm looking to connect with other female entrepreneurs. And like, great, let me tell you how. Or like, does anyone know how I'm looking for someone to help me move from this platform to this platform? Or I'm so overwhelmed and I need to have like it's every single post is either like Taylor Swift, Katz, someone who needs Melissa, or someone who needs Meredith. So follow me for more tips on how to carefully curate your threads algorithm. Awesome. Thank you, ladies, so much. Thank you for being on this podcast. Thank you for the work that you're doing in the world. I love these awards because I get to meet and connect with some of the coolest people. And I love being able to honor you guys for the work that you're doing that I think a lot of times goes uh under the radar and unrealized. And um, all three of you are just making such a massive impact in the world and with your clients. And I appreciate you guys so much.

SPEAKER_02 34:58

Thanks for having me. Thanks. Nice to meet you, Caitlin, and see a face to your name Meredith.

SPEAKER_01 35:05

Yeah, thank you for coming up with this idea a couple of years ago, Melissa. Because yeah, I think this was one of the brain dump channel items. Yeah, well, thanks for making it happen.

SPEAKER_00 35:15

Yay, thank you so much. This has been so great.